Episode 55 - Your Truth Is Your Medicine: A Journey of Transformation with Janne Robinson

🐚Topics covered

• Janne's transformative journey from feeling trapped in her life to creating a new path aligned with her truth
• The power of listening to feelings as information that guides us toward necessary life changes
• How making one major change can cascade into multiple areas of authentic transformation
• The importance of creating community while honoring your truth
• Why your truth evolves and requires ongoing attention throughout life
• The connection between embodying your truth and successful entrepreneurship
• How to stay connected to your inner wisdom in a world that rewards external performance

About Janne Robinson 

Janne Robinson is a poet, author, coach, and the founder of Your Truth is Your Medicine—a year-long program that has supported over 1,000 people in creating authentic belonging across every area of their lives: career, relationships, family, place, voice, and self.

For over a decade, Janne has guided people in building lives and businesses rooted in truth and meaning. Through more than 200 purpose sessions facilitated 1-1, she helps entrepreneurs and CEOs identify their authentic gifts and shape careers that align with who they truly are. She also works within organizations and companies to foster cultures of meaning and belonging.

Janne's work lives at the intersection of truth, purpose, and meaning. Whether she's working with someone individually or speaking to thousands through her programs, her mission is to help people come home to themselves—and build lives from that place.

She is the author of two books of poetry, with over 23,000 copies sold globally, and her work has been featured on the Today Show, in Women's Health Magazine, Sydney Morning Herald, Forbes, CBC, Huffington Post, and INC Business Magazine.

Where to find Janne

Website: www.jannerobinson.com 

Instagram: @jannerobinson 

Books: "This is for the Women Who Don't Give a Fuck" and "Cobwebs in Her Vagina" 

Program: "Your Truth Is Your Medicine" 

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About the Host

I’m Iris Josephina—functional hormone specialist, orthomolecular hormone coach, and entrepreneur. Through Cycle Seeds and The Inner Rhythms Podcast, I support people in reconnecting with their cyclical nature, deepening body literacy, and reclaiming hormonal harmony from a place of sovereignty and embodied knowledge. Most people know me from Instagram, where I share stories, tools, and inspiration on cyclical living, menstrual cycles, fertility, hormones and more. 

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Transcript

[00:00:00] Iris Josephina: You are listening to the podcast of Iris Josephina. If you are passionate about exploring the menstrual cycle, cyclical living, body wisdom, personal growth, spirituality, and running a business in alignment with your natural cycles, you're in the right place. I'm Iris. I'm an entrepreneur, functional hormone specialist, trainer and coach, and I am on a mission to share insights, fun facts, and inspiration I discover along the way as I run my business and walk my own path on earth.

[00:00:37] Iris Josephina: Here you'll hear my personal stories, guest interviews, and vulnerable shares from clients and students. Most people know me from Instagram where you can find me under at cycle seeds, or they have been a coaching client or student in one of my courses. I'm so grateful you're here. Let's dive into today's episode.

[00:00:57] Iris Josephina: Hey Yana, welcome to the show. I'm so happy to have you. Thank you so much for having me. Yeah. So we're gonna have a very deep conversation today and I'm very happy to have you here and I always start with listening to people's story. So can you share a little bit more about yourself and about your work?

[00:01:21] Iris Josephina: And then we're gonna dive into our conversation. Yeah, I'd love to. I also love that you said a deep conversation. 'cause yesterday evening I was at yoga and I. The yoga teacher as I was leaving was like, you have a, like a bikini line. I was like, no. I was like, I'm a poet. And she was like, well, you're deep. I was like, I am deep.

[00:01:42] Janne Robinson: I was like, you're right. She's like, she's like, poetry's deep. I was like, yeah. Um, so I like that you led with that. 'cause that made me laugh last night. And Yeah. And I would love to, I mean, I'm a storyteller. I, you know, I do a lot of things. I, I'm a poet and author, but I love to teach through story even as a coach.

[00:02:01] Janne Robinson: So, yeah, I'd love to share some of my story of how I arrived here and, uh, should I talk, talk about what I do, or you want me to just go, go right to the origin story or just go dive right in, in the way that you wanna share. Yeah. Yeah. So I, 12 years ago I was living a, started to just. Have information that came in the form of a feeling because I think a lot of the times information that it's time to evolve or change or make different choices or quit a job, leave a relationship, change a foundational part of our life, or sometimes create an entirely new life and start over usually comes in the form of a feeling.

[00:02:44] Janne Robinson: And I started to feel, actually Iris, it was, it was wanting to sleep all day. There was this, it's interesting how our vices and way we try and numb or avoid, like some people are like, I'll cover that in wine. Or some people are like, I'll watch Netflix or eat cheese. Or there's ways we can, oh, there's unhealthy.

[00:03:03] Janne Robinson: I, I mean now we're in the time of biohacking. So I think we can help regulate in different ways, but I feel that. For me, 12 years ago I was in Edmonton and I was bartending and serving, and I just felt like I had completely outgrown every part of my life. And I'm sharing the feeling because the feeling was the very first information for me that like, oh dang, I'm gonna need to make some changes here.

[00:03:30] Janne Robinson: I'm gonna need to maybe completely start over. And this is really hard because. It's almost as if we get in this, on the train tracks of our life and trying to see that there are different ways and different options for us. Sometimes I say different exits on the highway, we kind of black them out to a degree because we feel committed into these parts of our lives.

[00:03:56] Janne Robinson: But the information that we might need to change is a feeling. And so for me it was apathetic, sadness, exhaustion. I felt a little depressed. I'm a big believer in, and I love Louise Hay's work and you know, she talks about how the emotional cause behind depression is often feeling trapped. And we start to sometimes feel trapped in our lives, which sounds wild, but we're just like, I get up and I do the thing and then I go here and like this is it.

[00:04:25] Janne Robinson: And I had a moment where I just went, I can't, this isn't it for me anymore. You know, not this. And it was 3:45 PM and I was sitting in this. Show suite in Edmonton selling condos. And I'd bartended the night before, and I remember just looking down at this cup of like curdled coffee from Starbucks and just, this is such a visceral moment for me.

[00:04:52] Janne Robinson: I've told this story many times, but I think we all have these moments where we really finally get the information that just hits us in the face and we're like, whoa, yeah, this is it. Um, and I was looking at this curdled coffee from Starbucks with like two creams and sugar, and I just felt sick. I just felt like Elizabeth Gilbert talks about how we can eat the shit sandwich of our life for so long, and then there's a moment where we're like, I can't do it anymore.

[00:05:18] Janne Robinson: I can no longer eat this shit sandwich of my life. And I, I just picked up the phone and I called, I called my mom at the time and just said, I gotta just make a change one. Choice And the choice for me that I felt the clearest on, which some people think can be shallow is I was really done living in Edmonton, Alberta.

[00:05:41] Janne Robinson: It's an industrial town in Canada. It's uh, has minus 30 degrees Celsius winters. Oh wow. I have always love the warmth. I'm half Greek and. I, I, I think that our city is this, like, it's an environment and a space that is really important in taking care of ourselves. And I wanted trees and I wanted wildness.

[00:06:04] Janne Robinson: I wanted the ocean and I. I knew I needed to move. And so I also wanted to write. I'd been writing since I was in grade three, but nobody around me had ever shown me that it was possible to be an author as a career. Uh, no one. I was the first entrepreneur in my family. And it's really hard to take seriously your dreams and your gifts, especially when it's poetry to, to pay for your life and to risk and to leap into those things when there's no one else around you showing you.

[00:06:38] Janne Robinson: And I feel like now on the internet, there's a lot of people showing you. But 12 years ago, uh, I didn't have any of that. I had myself and I had a, a dream that I decided that I was going to claim and take seriously, but really the first choice that I just made was, I am feeling this sadness inside and this feeling, and I know that, that it's time to make some changes.

[00:07:03] Janne Robinson: And so I'm just gonna take a baby step. It wasn't really a baby step 'cause I. Moved my whole life, but it felt like a baby step to start with the city. It was like, oh, it's easier. Um, and, and with that came other changes, but I decided to move to this tiny cabin in British Columbia on the Sunshine Coast.

[00:07:24] Janne Robinson: And what I wanna share is. I'm not, I'm, I'm grounded. Yes. I believe in like a bit of manifestation, a little bit of universe. I am also very grounded and I have had things that I have wanted in my life. Like even now I live in California in Cardiff by the sea. 'cause I surf and I've had things that I want that haven't worked out.

[00:07:45] Janne Robinson: Like I had a, a business visa. My first visa was denied. I was like, yo universe, like, hey, I want this. What are you doing? So I'm not gonna say that this always happens, but it happened in this moment. So I called my mom at 3 45 and I said, I'm gonna move to bc. I don't really know what I'm gonna do for work.

[00:08:01] Janne Robinson: I. I wanna start writing. So my romanticized thing was like, I'll be Bonnie bear and write in a little cabin. I'm gonna go be the man I wanna date, wear plaid and cut firewood. And like I just romanticized entirely. It was really, there was bears, there was all kinds of things when I actually got out there, but I was like, I'm gonna do that and I'm glad I did it.

[00:08:21] Janne Robinson: But definitely had a romanticized idea of what living alone in the bush was gonna be. Uh, which comes later. But I also, six months prior, I'd had a conversation with a woman. She was a filmmaker, so not a poet, but she was an artist and she was a very successful artist. Her name's Diane Waylon. And, um. She, I had asked her about how she had changed her life and how she had, you know, she's Oscar qualified, Gemini nominated.

[00:08:49] Janne Robinson: She's a, she's a big, she's a big fish out there in the film world. And sometimes we ask questions that save our lives. Like I, I really, genuinely, and I, and I don't, I wanna be very clear, I wasn't ever suicidal. And that isn't, it was a bit of a dramatic, but sometimes we get in these versions of our lives where we need to recreate.

[00:09:08] Janne Robinson: And I believe that if we stay in them, we will become like, depressed and gray and all of those pieces. And six months before this moment, I had asked a question that I remembered in this moment, in the present tense that had been really important. And I had said to her, like, how did you do it? How did you start?

[00:09:27] Janne Robinson: How did you, like you, you're a, an award nominated filmmaker. Bestselling author. I have no idea how to do this. How did you do it? And she looked at me. So apparently I did have somebody, Instagram wasn't there, but there was one person and you know, she said to me, you know, Janna, I was a photojournalist in Vancouver.

[00:09:47] Janne Robinson: I. We're in Canada, everybody location wise, and I got tired of telling stories of trauma. I got tired of photographing airplane crashes, pain. I wanted to tell different stories. And so I heard about a sovereignty mission that happens in the northern most point of Canada every year, Canada, with the, the first nations rangers and the military go because technology freezes in the Arctic.

[00:10:15] Janne Robinson: So, uh, snowmobiles and all of those things actually are not enough. Western world is not enough to navigate the northern most point of Canada. We need indigenous, and first we need that, their knowledge of the land to fully arrive. I also think it's a little ridiculous that we do a sovereignty mission every year, but that's a side thing.

[00:10:32] Janne Robinson: I'm like, really? Uh, don't we have better things to be doing? But she loved this merging of worlds and wisdom and, um, wanted to go with them. And so she just called them up. She called up the, the. The, whoever the person was that was in charge of the expedition and said, I'm, uh, I'm, uh, my name's d Deanne Waylan and I'm a photojournalist for the Vancouver Sun, and I wanna come with you.

[00:10:57] Janne Robinson: And they were like, who are you? You can't come with us. And they hung up on her. And she called them back and said, I wanna do this. Like, I'll write a book. I'll, I'll do a feature story, like I will cover this. And she asked some of the right questions and said some of the right things. And she ended up on this expedition and she wrote a book about it called This Land, and, uh, made a film interactive with the National Film Board of Canada.

[00:11:24] Janne Robinson: And it kickstarted her career as an adventure filmmaker, but she had to have the audacity mm-hmm. To pivot, to change, and to claim a different dream. And so mine was a little bit less adventurous. Yes, there were bears with the cabin, but I was like, I'm gonna go live in this cabin. And I, I had, she had also said to me, you know, Yana, you need to just change one thing.

[00:11:48] Janne Robinson: And so in that moment of I can't eat the shit sandwich anymore at 3:45 PM in the show suite office, I, the truth that I met inside of my myself, and it was a smaller truth, but it was still a truth, was just, I really need trees. I really need trees. I really need the ocean, and I really need something different.

[00:12:09] Janne Robinson: And I didn't even know where in BC it was gonna be, but I knew I needed to move to bc. And I called my mom, and as I was sharing this with her, I said, I'm also gonna start writing, and I don't know fully how to make a career as a writer, but I'm gonna start doing it. And I might go to some universities and talk to some guidance counselors and see, I've never been to school, but I was like, oh, maybe I'll explore, have some conversations there at different colleges or universities.

[00:12:35] Janne Robinson: I ended up not going that route because I went and sat there and went, I'm not really convinced I need this to have a business as a writer. I'm not a heart surgeon. So I think I could tell a story and I said to my mom on the phone, can you contact Dee and see if she knows anywhere I could bartend or serve?

[00:12:52] Janne Robinson: Because as I changed this one core foundational part of my life, I also, I still needed to make money in different ways while I built out this maybe business as a writer. And so she, as I'm on the phone, this woman walks into the show suite and um. Integrity is one of one of my biggest values. And Iris, I'm so happy that I have a core value of integrity because if I didn't, I wouldn't have had this moment.

[00:13:19] Janne Robinson: She, I made commission selling condos for a developer that was kind of like a sort of soft real estate gig. And I was actually waiting for $10,000 that I never got paid. And the other thing that I wanna say is we often have something that we're waiting to happen to change our lives. And one of the reasons I stayed was I'm waiting for this $10,000.

[00:13:41] Janne Robinson: At that point in my life, when I was making $30,000, that was a lot of money for me and it was my next step. And I was waiting for the shoe to drop to make these changes. And, and I would make like a thousand dollars a person I sold a condo with. Um, I had a business partner and this woman that walked in was not a new lead, so I wasn't gonna make money off of her.

[00:14:03] Janne Robinson: And she actually wasn't my client, she was my business partner's client. She came in and I'm on the phone and I am really checked out of this life. And I was so, I'm so glad I had integrity, but I was done. I was really ready to move on from the job and everything, but she said, I'm here traveling from like out of province and I have to fly out tomorrow.

[00:14:25] Janne Robinson: I know you're almost closed. Could you please show me my unit? It's under construction. I really need to see where they're at. And I put on a hard hat and I was like, ah, okay. And I got the phone and I walked with her through this building. And as we were walking, one of my superpowers is I'm very open and people feel very safe a lot of the time to share their story.

[00:14:47] Janne Robinson: She started to talk to me about her story and her life and why she was there. And her father was sick, so she was buying a condo in Edmonton to be closer to him and to take care of him. And then she started to talk about this cabin and she was like, I have this cabin and I don't know what to do with it.

[00:15:04] Janne Robinson: Like, I don't really wanna sell it. I don't really want a stranger living there. I don't know what to do with it. And I'm like, where's your cabin? And she's like the Sunshine Coast, which is where Dee and I had gone kayaking. And one of the places I was considering and I went, okay, no way. You're not gonna believe this, but you walked in as I was having a conversation about wanting to move to BC to pursue my dreams, I wanna be a writer.

[00:15:30] Janne Robinson: I started to share my, my dreams with her. And she was like, I, I love you. Like I would love if you lived, or I shouldn't say I love you, but she was like, I love your energy. You know, I'd love for you to be the one that lives in the, the cabin. And um, and then I shared that financially. I was like waiting for this money to drop.

[00:15:48] Janne Robinson: 'cause the developer had something caught up with someone and I. And again, it never arrived. So for those of you that are waiting for the shoe to drop, it might not drop. So you have to also just claim the shit that you want and call up the sovereignty mission and just say, I'm coming, if that's the audacity is important in this.

[00:16:04] Janne Robinson: And I told her about the money and she said, you can actually live rent free till the money comes. So, uh, it doesn't always work out like that, but sometimes, and some of you who are listening and maybe Iris like, you know, that there's those beautiful moments where it feels like the universe. Once you say what it is that you want to create and build for your life, rolls out a goddamn red carpet for you and says, thanks for finally taking seriously the things that we know that you want.

[00:16:36] Janne Robinson: And yeah, we're gonna help you out a little bit. And sometimes you don't get helped out and then you have to fight really hard. And it's a combination. But, um, in this moment it was. Beautiful. I didn't end up living in her cabin. I ended up living in a different cabin. I could have, I, I didn't like the location of it to be honest.

[00:16:53] Janne Robinson: And I fell this cabin by a creek that was, had like a skylight and the moonlight would come in. And I ended up choosing that even though I had to pay for it. Um, and I babysat the kids that lived on the land in exchange for part of my rent. 'cause again, at that point in my life, I was very much in survival with money, which I have completely transformed, which is another amazing blows my mind.

[00:17:15] Janne Robinson: I make, I used to make $30,000 a year hating what I love. And I have made like 270 to half a million dollars for five years off of my fucking gifts and my art. And every day I wake up and look at my calendar. I know I'm going forward a little bit, everybody, but this week I got a speaking opportunity of my dreams of biggest, one of my whole career.

[00:17:35] Janne Robinson: Brene Brown was a speaker at this conference, a different year. And I just feel I'm having a lot of flashbacks right now of what. My life was, and like the courage that it takes to actually claim those things that we want, but that it can never happen. And I could nothing, we wouldn't be on this call. None of the things that I've done today, none of the clients I've sat with or opportunities would even exist if I wouldn't have picked up that phone.

[00:18:06] Janne Robinson: And sometimes it's del, like your little like ulu, like you're like, I'm delirious that I'm gonna just, I'm gonna do what I'm gonna go move it to. I don't even know how to use an axe. I had a wood. I was freezing. I had to, there was bears tearing the siding off of this cabin. I was terrified. The whole thing would move at night when a bear or a coyote would walk on and there was a dude hiding in the woods one time.

[00:18:29] Janne Robinson: It was scary living out in the wild. It was very creative. I wrote. 14 to 17 articles a month, and I ended up interning with Dee. I would twice a week I would work with her. I got paid like 10 bucks an hour. But it was like, you don't, if you wanna be in the energy of somebody who has the audacity to do it, you don't care about the money.

[00:18:50] Janne Robinson: You'll run around and get coffees For them just to be in their energy and to hear what they speak, and Dee is a, is a really rare woman. So I, that was that moment though. It's, I think we have our lives and we all have these little moments in our life that are impactful. And as a storyteller and a speaker and an author, I've told this story a hundred times and it still makes me cry and feel emotional just because there was such a, a visceral opportunity to really claim.

[00:19:19] Janne Robinson: What I wanted or to keep living my life in pain. And Louise Hay does say that, you know, depression is feeling trapped. And the way that we break depression is realizing the power of choice. So realizing how many exits are on the highway and that we're actually not locked into this one life that exists.

[00:19:37] Janne Robinson: And then she goes on to say that suicidal is, we stop seeing all the exits and we just see things as black and white, live or die. And I think that it's so important to take accountability and realize the power of choice in our lives and listen to those truths. Sometimes they're small and then they get louder and louder and louder and louder 'cause we don't listen to them.

[00:20:00] Janne Robinson: And that truth had been speaking to me for a long time, but when I started to genuinely feel depression roll in, it was like, okay, I wanna, I wanna go back to bed when I wake up because I don't feel excited about my day. Mm-hmm. That, that's, that's not, uh, sleep as a vice. It's interesting. We don't often think about sleep as a vice.

[00:20:23] Janne Robinson: Sleep can be a vice because you don't have to be awake in the life that you're living. Um, and so my whole journey and to fast forward a little bit, yeah, I started to write and then I had things that went viral and had millions of views. And then I published a book that sold 23,000 copies, which most 1% of books sell 5,000 copies.

[00:20:43] Janne Robinson: And I wrote poetry, which. It's not in that 1% stat. I'm probably much less. I have an oh one Visa, which is a visa for artists with extraordinary ability. That's really hard to get. I live a block from the beach and surf beautiful waves. I have a little 1975 blush pastel pickup truck, and I put my little mini Bernadoodle Zeus in it.

[00:21:04] Janne Robinson: And we go to the beach every morning and I surf and I get to write poems and work with clients around claiming their dreams and the things that they want and speak at apparently events that Brene Brown has spoke at. Uh, so I'm feeling like a lot of really beautiful things happened in my life and it took a lot of courage.

[00:21:22] Iris Josephina: Hmm. And I just wanna name, it wasn't easy. And even part of that story I don't always share, but I think with where the world is at, I like to name is, not only did I have to overcome this obstacle of like the money never came that I was waiting for. I also, as I was, my car was packed and I'd moved outta my place and I'm on the way to this cabin.

[00:21:44] Janne Robinson: And I was in a very new relationship with somebody who, uh, was not a good relationship and I realized I was pregnant and I did a lot of processing around the fact that I could be a mother and do the things, but it wasn't the moment for me and it wasn't the partner and it wasn't the time. And so I had an abortion in this cabin in December.

[00:22:08] Janne Robinson: Heavy Rain. Didn't know a single person outside from D on the coast. And my initiation into my new life was incredibly challenging, even though I was clear on my choice and I feel at peace with the fact I had an abortion. Uh, it was a whole thing to move through and I really believe they call it the hero's journey or the heroine's journey.

[00:22:30] Janne Robinson: It's like in starting over or going on this call to adventure to our next life. And something really practical I like to say to people is like ourselves, change. Every seven years. Mm-hmm. So why wouldn't parts of our life, why wouldn't your interests in things like your career or certain pieces happen?

[00:22:49] Janne Robinson: The good news is, is when you're in relationship with somebody, that's actually part of the fun part, is that they're always becoming a new person that you're getting to know. And if you stay long enough, um, I'm also a huge fan of divorce, but if you stay long enough and in that commitment and it works for you, I think that, I just wanna be very clear that pro divorce, if it, if you have that truth and that clarity for you, but there's also iterations of ourselves and our friendships and our family relationships of getting to know.

[00:23:14] Janne Robinson: So I. There will be change. Change is inevitable. And, um, it doesn't always mean that it's easy or, you know, I, I'm a self-sustained woman. I never came from, I, like, I was actually raised on welfare. I didn't have a bunch of money to support any of my dreams or things. Like there was no rich. I have a client who says like she wishes, she wishes she has a rich uncle that she could call, but didn't, I didn't have a rich uncle either.

[00:23:41] Janne Robinson: I told her, I was like, I didn't have a rich uncle either. And she's like, I know, and that's why I work with you, is you've built this amazing thing by yourself and not by myself. I had mentors and people and that's, that's not right, but financially, yeah. And, and so I, not only, I met with a mentor last week from 12 years ago and she said, I, what I love is that you not only transformed your life through truth, you've also now, that's one of my gifts as I've had over a thousand people, a thousand people blows my mind have gone through this one year program.

[00:24:13] Janne Robinson: I have. Called your truth is your Medicine where people do, I walk them through with my stories. I teach through stories and then workbooks because there's such power in journaling and sitting with ourselves and self-reflection that doesn't happen. And just listening to me say things, um, there's a need for that and integrative need.

[00:24:34] Janne Robinson: And I have this one year program with like all of these pieces. And so she was like, you've not only done it for yourself, but then you've become that space of transformation and for people to claim those things for themselves. I've also helped 120 women start a business like scratch up from their gifts, and I've done 200 purpose sessions, so I feel like I.

[00:24:56] Janne Robinson: Transformed this life that needed an next iteration into not only a new life, but a business that has thrived and supported me and impacted a lot of people in this world. Whew. And that's the thing we don't always think about is when we're not claiming the things that we want, we're also shorting all of those people in the world.

[00:25:17] Janne Robinson: Mm-hmm. Who need our gifts, who wanna fall in love, or be our friend, or, you know, collaborate with us. Like they're just waiting for us to have the courage to show who we really are to the world. So yeah. Thank you for sharing that. I always say like it's a disservice to not claim what you're here for and to not listen.

[00:25:39] Iris Josephina: Yeah. To that inner voice or that sensation or that feeling that you mentioned at the beginning. When you don't listen to that, everyone else who gets to enjoy you while you. Cultivate your gifts also misses out, and I love that you claim that for yourself. And I, I completely understand how this feeling of, oh, this change needs to happen.

[00:26:05] Iris Josephina: And then when you're working towards the change, you feel this excitement. But then when you're actually landing into the change, things can actually be really challenging. And I've experienced that too in multiple moments in my life. Like I've, like you like packed up my stuff and moved countries because I felt I had to do that.

[00:26:24] Iris Josephina: Or because I had a very beautiful experience when I went to Malta for the first time was total synchronicity. I read about it and then I cried when I read about it. I booked ticket, booked my flight, booked my car. I was like, why am I here? And I arrived at my air, Airbnb and the people who were living there, they said, okay, there's one thing you need to know when you're here.

[00:26:47] Iris Josephina: A baby is gonna be born. And I'm like, oh, I'm a doula, so if you need help, just let me know. And they just like dropped everything. And they're like, we've been looking for a doula for nine months. I'm like, oh, okay. That's why I'm here. I understand now I get it. Wow. And then after that experience, there was this whole cascade of like, I need to move here.

[00:27:09] Iris Josephina: And then all these opportunities like. Magically popped up. But it was not magically, it was because I made the choice. Mm-hmm. And I can really relate to, to, to this journey. 'cause it's the hero's journey basically, that you are like unraveling. And I can relate to that. And, and it's such a, it's such a gift if we, or when we are brave enough to listen.

[00:27:34] Iris Josephina: Because every part of that journey comes with surrender, with lessons, with wisdom, with knowledge. And I'm just so grateful that you said yes because now we all get to learn from you. You wouldn't be here. No. There would not be my books out in the world. And I What a beautiful, I've never been to Malta.

[00:27:53] Janne Robinson: What a beautiful, we need those stories of serendipity to believe in magic. Yeah. Me too. To me, they're so important. I love hearing, I love hearing those stories, but also then not to, I also like to simultaneously share the stories of where I've been flat out, rejected by the universe. Just to make people to be like, you still have to go out there and choose 'cause you can make it.

[00:28:16] Janne Robinson: Spiritual. People love to make things mean something, and I'm like, stop making it. You can make it mean something encouraging, but don't make it mean that you're not meant to have the things that you want. You still have to have the power of will. Yeah. That's very true. Yeah, to go out there. Thank you for sharing that story.

[00:28:33] Janne Robinson: I like that. Yeah. There was more to it, but time right now. So you, you mentioned that this entire journey of yours has led you to create this beautiful program where you, where you. Teach people how their truth can be their medicine. Mm-hmm. And I'm curious, what does that mean in the season of your life that you're in right now?

[00:28:56] Iris Josephina: What does that mean for you? Because I can imagine this also morphs and changes as you change. Yes. And for anyone who's a business owner and has a program that they relaunch every year, I feel like I, I revisit the, the, the core medicine or the message of each offer. Every time I amp up, it's almost as if my life becomes an amplification of what I'm about to step into and teach.

[00:29:26] Janne Robinson: And so I've been actually building out this, this launch as a whole. It's a marriage. It's not a, it's definitely not a one night stand for this, for this program that we do. Um. And take six months with my team. So we've been in it now with the truth, talking to the truth for six months. Um, I think the biggest thing, having conversations like this conversation with you and conversations I've had this week really brings me into my heart and gives me a meaningful space to reflect because this, the program, your truth is your medicine is about my story in changing my life from a moment that I was in pain and just feeling really sad.

[00:30:10] Janne Robinson: And now knowing where I am, I still have moments where I have to make changes and choices. And it's not, I even tell people it's about learning to listen to this. This compass inside of who we are or our north star or this, this feeling. And I feel like truth is a, I dunno if it's gonna say it's intuition.

[00:30:30] Janne Robinson: Sometimes people won't say it's intuition, but it's like, it's this, it's this piece inside that we hear and then we need to continue to fire a synaptic response. Neuroscience, get that moving to learn how to hear, integrate, and then take action. And that's something we gotta do for our whole lives. It's not like, oh, I did it once, Iris, I did it once and now I'm, I'm good.

[00:30:52] Janne Robinson: It's all good. No, I get micro and macro truths in my life all the time that I have to listen to. And sometimes, um, I am a. I'm like a manifest, I'm a manifester in human design. And that's on my forefront. 'cause I just was interviewed by Erin Claire Jones, who's a human design expert this week, and she, we were talking about how with my design, which is to be an initiator, I'm very bold and evocative and I'm, I don't ask for permission and I repel people or they fall in love with my big energy.

[00:31:26] Janne Robinson: I'm not a, like, I'm a, I'm a supernova. I had a, I had a therapist once who said like, you're a supernova in a world full of planets and you have a big energy and you're gonna feel alone and lonely sometimes because you're not always gonna be met. So feeling disappointed, feeling some of those pieces and, but I get truths.

[00:31:44] Janne Robinson: Like I am very, integrity is a core value for me. And I oftentimes, like I'm just saying on the note of where is truth showing up in my life? I had a business. Uh, somebody in my business, like a contractor relationship fall apart this week. And, um, and that's always hard even when you know, the truth of a relationship not being a fit For me, I use the world of values, so I always try and look at maybe what values are not shared.

[00:32:11] Janne Robinson: Um, and it still hurts and it's hard, but I, as I step deeper into working with people around honoring those truths mm-hmm. I force myself to also really step into them. You know, it's like I, I'm gonna be teaching about vices and numbing and like, I have moments where I can reach for breath work in a cold plunge or a glass of Sauvignon Blanc.

[00:32:33] Janne Robinson: And I can tell you that closer to, like, I feel like no one drinks anymore. I drink sometimes, but I feel like the whole world is like personal development, self-help world. I mean. Europeans are a little more chill. But in America, everyone, all the, the self-help coaches have stopped drinking. And I like wine sometimes, but I, I notice, you know, especially holding so much and in a busy phase, wanting to downshift my nervous system.

[00:32:58] Janne Robinson: But I'm like, I'm about to go talk with people about their relationship with wine. And so I started to get very, um, aware of my relationship with those things and where I'm regulating in a way that is, um, healthier and cleaner. And, and it's fine to have wine sometimes or TV or whatever. I think it's, uh, a Do you know Abraham Hicks's work?

[00:33:19] Iris Josephina: Yeah, I do. Yeah. I love, love her. And she, I listened to a seminar she did once and this woman came on to do a hot seat with her, and the woman said, my husband just died and I'm drinking a lot of wine. Abraham was like, okay, so drink wine, but like, don't drink wine forever. And be aware that you're drinking wine.

[00:33:41] Janne Robinson: Hmm. And I love that practical piece. And so one of the ways I've been noticing is in my stress, how am I regulating and, and also am I really owning and, and, and speaking my truth and also integrating it in some moments and some of the things that I work with people on, because sometimes we take sloppy, messy, reactive action.

[00:34:02] Janne Robinson: Mm-hmm. I have a whole module of my program of like, hey, there's something called integration. And I know it's really fun when you go to a personal development seminar to like blow up your life, but like, just let it integrate for like a week maybe. And then, um, you know, I have a, I have a, a client, you know, who shared all these changes, but you have to space them out in your life.

[00:34:21] Janne Robinson: You know, you don't wanna like quit the job, move and leave your partner all in the same week. You can, I mean, it's kind of manic and fun, but then it's really hard on your nervous system. So, um, yeah. And, and then I almost also, something that happens for me is I. I, I really fall in love with what I'm about to teach in a new way, in a way that I haven't.

[00:34:44] Janne Robinson: And so when you've created something, sometimes I'm sure you've done this, you make something and you're like, nah, I don't know if I'm really that interested in that anymore. Okay. I, I've taught it, like I've done it, like I've moved on. But then I get into it and I'm like, yeah, like I really, I remember the reasons and the beauty and I, I have, um, I have affiliates working with me for this launch and they're sending me voice notes being like, I just did the hypnotherapy soul retrieval session and, 'cause I have all these mentors and teachers that come in and speak and, and like they're saying like, I left my body.

[00:35:14] Janne Robinson: I had this life changing. And I'm like. Right? Yeah. This program's amazing and I'm so glad we're doing it again. And so it's like when you have a musician that has a hit song and they sing it a million times, you're like, do they really wanna keep singing it? But they have to find a way to fall in love with that song in different ways and to connect to it.

[00:35:33] Janne Robinson: So yeah, I'm in this phase of, falling in love again, was something I made five years ago, and I'm deep in the, uh, you know, 'cause then I'm also writing the emails and the ad copy and that brings me into my story and mm-hmm. And connects me back to it. So yeah, I'm in a beautiful space right now of just paying attention to the elements of that because listening to the truth of who we are and meeting ourselves in truth is not something we do once.

[00:35:58] Janne Robinson: And that's, I really need people to hear that because it's not no one's. I'm not perfect. I'm not fixed. My life isn't transformed. I have moments where I'm out of alignment and then I have to listen to that truth and so does everybody else. But it is about learning to listen in here. So. Yeah, it's almost like when you, when you were saying all of that, what came to me was like truth is actually a verb.

[00:36:24] Iris Josephina: It's something that keeps evolving and shifting and change. It's like alive in, it's on its own and we just have to move, move with it and see what it means and see how it feels and how it moves with us. Yeah, it's true. And like for those of you that feel disconnected from your truth, I wanted to say that there's like micro moments.

[00:36:46] Janne Robinson: Like it could be true that you wake up in the morning and you usually drink black coffee and you, what could be true is like you want a latte or that like you're excited to eat blueberries for breakfast. Like I also wanna say that truths are not always these large, big things. They're also micro. Micro little things that we get to feel into.

[00:37:06] Janne Robinson: And so if you're listening to this going like, what is, what are my truths? And I don't know how much a lot of us don't pay rent or live in our body. So when I'm talking about feelings in your bodies, you might even go, I don't even really have that. That's okay. You know? Mm-hmm. You have to, there's a journey, there's a journey into the body and it takes time, but just start to pay attention to the things that you're pulled towards or that you desire.

[00:37:30] Janne Robinson: And those also get to be the confidence. Building little truths like, um, validating and feeling into it doesn't always have to be a massive truth as well. Mm-hmm. Did you notice that when you made that one first big decision, this, this shift, this change, that it was easier for you to also notice the other, like smaller day-to-day truths that came to you like, oh, this is what I wanna have for breakfast, or now I want to like move my body, or was that something that was awakened within you?

[00:38:07] Janne Robinson: Yeah, and I would say definitely like I, I was the mi the, the micro, the little tiny pieces I felt like I, I had the feeling for a long time and didn't listen to it, so, mm-hmm. For me it was more like, I was like, oh, I know the big ass changes need, it's not about blueberries for breakfast over here. It's like, we need to start writing.

[00:38:26] Janne Robinson: We need to do these things. So I was aware, I often feel that we actually. Not always, but like we know to a degree it's not, maybe not always on the career front. The career front could be a bit hazy, but I knew enough. And the thing about moving your city is then you automatically, your friends are somewhere else.

[00:38:43] Janne Robinson: Your community is somewhere else, and your jobs, unless you work remote, are also somewhere else. And for me, they were physical, in person jobs at the time. So that choice forced new friendships, new community, new location, new jobs. It also gave me an opportunity to start working online and have an online business.

[00:39:02] Janne Robinson: Mm-hmm. But I, I, yes, it amplified and created a space for me. To look at all of those things very clearly. Um, and, and I think that sometimes if you just quit your job and you stay in the same city, it might be a little bit quieter, right? There's like a little bit of a different piece. But yeah, it, it definitely, it also, one of the things I don't talk about in the program, but that definitely happened around the same time, is I went off birth control and I, I actually met this woman, sunshine Coast is full of like hippies, drafter dodgers artists.

[00:39:35] Janne Robinson: It's like a really weird like combo. And there's this hippie I, this woman I met, she was a to, I'm a hippie. I was raised by hippies. I love hippies. But she was like, when I went off birth control, when I notice now is like when I pee in the woods. I can feel the energy of the earth again.

[00:39:54] Janne Robinson: And, um, uh, I, I, anyways, I remember this moment and, uh, her telling this to me, I decided to go off birth control. I started to connect also with serious hormone imbalance and my body because of birth control. And like, you know, your body tricks you into thinking you're pregnant, that you, your choice in men changes, all kinds of things change.

[00:40:13] Janne Robinson: Yeah. Um, and uh, I. By the way, if you're on birth control, go do some research around that. 'cause it literally is hard to tell if you like the person you're with. 'cause all of your, you're go look more into it. I'm not a Maybe you're the person to talk. I dunno. Do you talk about your Yeah, I do. I speak about that, but I'm mentioning this 'cause I had a journey also with my, my body and my hormones and, and then I also used to straighten my hair and wear makeup.

[00:40:41] Janne Robinson: And I had this unwinding into also like, authentically my program's also about authenticity and just being who you are. It was like, what, what's my hair? You know, what do I look like? What's my, and I would, I would be naked everywhere. I was just, I would go pee in the bush and then I'd feel the earth through my, I would like, I would, I would.

[00:41:01] Janne Robinson: Um, I had a moment where a bear came and I was like. Banging pots and pans to scare it off. And I was like, naked. It's not that I was naked. Uh, and it also didn't run away, which was so scary. But I, it was scary. There was cougars and like, I would like kind of cut out for the bush, but not really. I definitely, not to be stereotypical, but definitely will be with a partner if I'm deep in the bush again, which is not alone.

[00:41:24] Janne Robinson: There was like a, I did it, but it was a little scary. Uh, I'll tell you that. I was both a badass and a little afraid, and I, so on the note of that particular piece and those changes and choices, I would say that, yeah, it forced me to look at the other parts of my life. And I think once you also start to feel how good it feels.

[00:41:48] Janne Robinson: To start to respect and really honor and make choices that honor the truth that you're feeling inside. Yeah. Then you start to see everywhere else you're like, oh, that felt good and where, what, what else needs to change? It's like when you clean out one messy drawer in your house and you're like, oh, that feels good.

[00:42:03] Janne Robinson: Where else should I be cleaning up? 'cause that freed up some space in my life. And yeah. So yes, it did also show me the other places, and it took a bit of time. I still had to serve and bartend for a while. I didn't just automatically make the, you know, uh, at the beginning I think I was making $4,000 as a writer, which is incredible.

[00:42:24] Janne Robinson: But it took a moment, mm-hmm. Where I had to have other jobs and things that were there to support me as well. I think that's also very smart to do. Like, yeah, I have. I have not always been so smart about it. Like I moved to Malta with like 300 euros to my name and I was like, okay, now what? Then I decided to like completely start my own business from scratch, from where I left it off in the Netherlands, like wouldn't recommend like that was a very smart thing to do.

[00:42:51] Iris Josephina: And I love that you mentioned the birth control part, because what I often tell people is that birth control numbs like a part of yourself. That is true. Like your hormones inform what you want and what you feel and how you perceive the world around you, and that's kind of like blurry on birth control.

[00:43:16] Iris Josephina: So I can definitely see how this shift also informed. Basically your development, like of your brain and your hormones, communicating like your brain, communicating with your ovaries and what that does to your creativity and your perception of the world, your perception of yourself and the perception of your truth and who you want to be as a person and what your purpose is.

[00:43:42] Iris Josephina: How you wanna bring that forth in the world, like your hormones play an important part in that. People don't know this, but they do play such an important part of that. And with that, I'm also curious because what I thought about when you were sharing is, well, she, she also stopped her birth control in a moment when it was not cool to do that like I did.

[00:44:06] Iris Josephina: So I wanted to ask you like, how do you, how did you, do you, and did you stay connected to your truth in a world that often rewards like performance and walking the line? Like, how was it? Because, because you mentioned that it would be lonely for you, so it's not easy. Well, also I was like literally in the middle of the woods, in the middle of nowhere.

[00:44:32] Janne Robinson: Like I was alone. So let's be very clear, I isolated myself like intensely. Um, we are communal creatures. It's okay for a little while, but then you still need to leave the aloneness to have community. Yeah, and I, I did move, I moved to Santa Teresa in Costa Rica for a little while and then I moved to California because I felt like alone.

[00:44:52] Janne Robinson: I was like, I'm lonely. But it was like, yeah, it's 'cause I live alone. There was a community but you really had to travel and seek them and find them. And uh, it took some time. But first I just wanna really, really quickly, like Iris, I just appreciate, thank you for working with women around all of the things that you do and hormones and what you just said about the your it it informing.

[00:45:12] Janne Robinson: Right? That's, that was such a beautiful, that was. I'm just like so grateful that you do that work and that feels true. Um, and, uh, and yeah, I think there's actually a talk in the program this year. We're doing a breaking up with birth control talk by a naturopathic doctor. Um, oh, cool. Because I think that it's, yeah, yeah.

[00:45:31] Janne Robinson: That's a, that's a new addition. Um, was like the importance of breaking up with birth control and in part of accessing your truth. So I feel like you could also be teaching that you're teaching a different one, but you could be teaching that one. Um, but yeah, I, and I know that, and I'm gonna share in a minute with everybody.

[00:45:49] Janne Robinson: We'll share, there is a program, but there's also a free thing that I wanna invite you to. And Iris is a part of the later thing. Yes. Um, but, uh, and she will be coming in to share her genius. I just wanted to say, you've just got, I just felt your genius and your, your, when you said that, I was like, oh, I love, like moments where I get a feel people's genius zone and their things.

[00:46:09] Janne Robinson: So thanks for the. The, the way in which you said that and the way that it was named just felt so clear in a way that we only can express if we spent a lot of time in something and have an understanding of it. So yeah, I worked at K Hendricks for a year, so I called our genius. Thanks for that little genius moment.

[00:46:29] Janne Robinson: Um, I appreciate you for noticing it. Thank you. Yeah, it was poetic. I did not notice. And so your question was around dealing with the loneliness or the aloneness of embracing truth, like in that particular moment in the cabin. Yeah. And also how do you stay connected to that truth in a world that expects something different from us?

[00:46:53] Iris Josephina: Mm-hmm. Well, when I'm not listening to that truth, I feel a little like disassociated and weird. Mm-hmm. First off is like, I don't feel well. In myself when I'm not listening to that. So I, I come back, I come back to this because it's what connects me and makes me feel grounded. And so yeah, a lot of the world tells you all kinds of things, but I think we need to listen in first here.

[00:47:23] Janne Robinson: Yeah. Always. And then run the world through us as a sounding board. And in that particular moment of change and embracing the truth that I was starting over and like being alone in the, in the cabin. I also just wanna make sure I fully understood the question. 'cause I feel like I might go on a tangent right now.

[00:47:47] Iris Josephina: Can you ask it one more time? So my question was how you stay connected to this truth that you have cultivated in a world that often I. Expect expects like performance or outward projection instead of listening to this inward part. I feel that you have like, right, being a a manifester, you have that cultivated, like you came with that somewhat, but there's a lot of manifesters who don't.

[00:48:19] Janne Robinson: Well, what I would say is the other thing that I tell people, like, it's interesting being a coach 'cause people work with me as a coach. But I, I think that it's, I what you're saying about like, we're taught to externally, we outsource our power a lot. Yes. That's what I'm trying to say. We outsource our power and we like, I need the coach or the guru or I need the, the thing to tell me.

[00:48:40] Janne Robinson: And when I work with people I say. I'm gonna say all kinds of things, and some of it might be really helpful and there might be some business strategy you love and there might be some, some personal pieces that you love. But you need to learn to listen in here and run every fucking thing I say through the sounding board.

[00:48:58] Janne Robinson: That is you. Because I don't pick up all of the advice that my mentors and coaches give me, and that's not the point of having a coach and a mentor. It's not like, yes, I'll do everything that you do. It's no, I like the horizon of this person. If it's a business mentor, I like the business that this person has built and what exists there.

[00:49:17] Janne Robinson: If it's something that we're wanting, if it's a secure attachment or like a piece, it's like you have to like what you're learning from that person, but we're never gonna resonate a hundred percent. And I think a lot of people, especially in. Self-help and people who are interested in self-growth, don't outsource your power.

[00:49:32] Janne Robinson: Mm-hmm. And, and do listen to the truth inside. And don't be afraid to walk away from something. Um, like we have to have this, I have coaches and mentors and therapists, and I have therapists. I, Larry, I go see Larry. I don't know what I'd do without Larry, Larry Laman and Salona Beach. Thank you. Like everybody say thank you to Larry for me for a moment because he's my rocks.

[00:49:54] Janne Robinson: And I, I value, I'm still saying yes, growth therapy, but at the same time also being able to listen to this piece is important and not outsource source from inside of here. And I, I don't feel like it's, I feel like it's scary to outsource. I don't know some people, I think, I guess my piece is, I've never wanted, I don't, it doesn't feel connected or in my body to do that.

[00:50:23] Janne Robinson: So, yeah. And then, I mean, I, as a woman. Another thing is like, I'm constantly hit with like, look 20, you know, I'm 35 and I've got gray hairs. And there's also the, the, that there's a thing that I think that we deal with as well with our power as women and aging and, and men with youth and beauty and the beauty industry of like, I think we just have to always connect back to, I've had a huge journey also as I just shared, like letting go of being perfect, letting go of the, the standards that were sold mm-hmm.

[00:50:56] Janne Robinson: By the $44 million beauty industry and all of these pieces. And so when you talk about power and outsourcing, I just try and keep it all in here and, and not listen. 'cause we get bombarded with like, that we're broken and that we need all of these things to fix us or be lovable or be beautiful or like whe whether it's the beauty industry or the self-help industry, everyone's telling you what you need to be fixed and not broken.

[00:51:20] Janne Robinson: And I wanna just remind everybody, you're not broken. And you don't actually need anything. It's okay to seek support and be able to have mentors and moments of your life, but don't do it from a place of, I'm fucked if I don't do this. Do it from a place of like, I like, I like the horizon and I'm gonna learn something from that person.

[00:51:42] Janne Robinson: But I also know that I have a whole power and peace inside of me. And so, yeah. Did I answer that? I feel like we answered it. Yeah. I love the, like the, the clarity and precision with which you can name it and it's because you embody it and it's because you live it. And I can feel that, and I think people who are listening can also feel that.

[00:52:04] Iris Josephina: But I also know that there are people who are listening who are like. I want this, what is she talking about? I understand conceptually it, it exists, but I haven't cultivated it and I haven't fully embodied it. And I think that that is what you are doing exactly with your work. It's, it's your, you're supporting people or inviting people into this space where they can actually cultivate this for themselves through you as a zoning board and a mirror.

[00:52:37] Iris Josephina: So could you maybe tell a little bit more about your very beautiful, free offering that is coming very soon? Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. So, yeah, my full, like, I'm a transparent woman, so there is a full year program that I do, and Iris is gonna be involved as a teacher of truth in it, um, which I'm very excited for.

[00:53:00] Janne Robinson: I've had, I've got like. 24 other teachers of truth and people who also live their truth in the world that are involved. But there's, there is a program called Your Truth Is Your Medicine. And every year before I launch it, I do this incredible 10 day experience where I test some of the curriculum and the actual course materials and give it away for free in this 10 day experience.

[00:53:27] Janne Robinson: And I look for, the term is a beta tester and beta, it's very scientific. It just means to test. And so essentially we're, we're giving people the opportunity. Both me and my team want the feedback of, Hey, is this helpful? How is this? And, and then you get the experience of having this like very front row exclusive seat while I film this mini course.

[00:53:51] Janne Robinson: And it is a mini course that I film live that then I later charge for. So it's, I, I, it's called, the term is called a beta tester. And what you really are is having a front row seat, which is in live time. And then you get the opportunity later on in the program to just share how it landed for you, if it was helpful, if it was not helpful, and give the feedback that is really important.

[00:54:14] Janne Robinson: Um, but for me, what I love about it is it's this 10 day totally free experience. It's about 12 hours of teaching. So I do three full curriculum workshops that are two hours each, where I also start with. The very first things in my journey and how I was running away from myself, because I think that that's the prerequisite, first steps to making choices and change is like, Hey, what are my vices?

[00:54:43] Janne Robinson: How am I numbing? What are the masks that I'm wearing? Where am I stopping my voice? Why am I afraid of being who I am in my relationships? Where am I out of integrity with the truth of who I am and how is avoiding that affecting how I feel, my confidence, my trust? All of those pieces. So we, we dive in.

[00:55:04] Janne Robinson: I've got curriculum, I got slides, I got all kinds of things. We do three like. Pretty much three little, almost mini course days. And then I do hot seat coaching live in a community. There's a Facebook group, and the beautiful thing is something that I think is important to name is there is transformation that happens one-on-one when you're in a room and some things you need one-on-one for, but there are, there are is a type of healing and transformation that only happens when both being witnessed and witnessing because you alone in a room could move through something but then still have a story and shame that it's just you.

[00:55:45] Janne Robinson: That's, you could still have shame around it. Mm-hmm. If, if I have a woman who comes in and I'm doing a hot seat with her in Meet Yourself In Truth, and she starts to share about. Something that you have shame about, and I'm coaching her through it. I'm not looking at you. And so what we know about psychology is that all of our defense patterns come up and we're being looked at as well.

[00:56:05] Janne Robinson: And you're disarmed because I'm not even looking at you, but you're getting a witness to this moment. That's your moment. Because so much of this human experience surprise. Sorry. You're not so unique in your, your, even though you think that you're, that's why you should have shame, but you shouldn't. Um, is like her being like, you know, and, and.

[00:56:24] Janne Robinson: And everything. It's crazy. You know, I have, I have people who come in and I had a woman once share about like, yeah, like using masturbation a lot to avoid pain. Usually I feel like that's a, a male stereotypical thing and it was this woman and she shared about it openly and we did a hot seat on it around, you know, 'cause sex is also one of the ways we can avoid or numb or masturbation.

[00:56:42] Janne Robinson: And so, right, you're in this moment where you're like, oh my gosh, this is maybe what I need to hear, but. But you don't have to be looked at. I don't even, you're just on the call. Your video's off, you know you're in the bathtub eating a snack. That type of healing only happens in community. And so I participate and go to, I went to Peter Levine's retreat in Sedona.

[00:57:04] Janne Robinson: I go via participant in the world because I think that it is so important to be vulnerable in groups as a part of our integration and healing. So whether you do personal development, you have a coach, a person I would love to have you apply. There's an actual application. Yes, it has questions you have to share a little bit.

[00:57:26] Janne Robinson: I need you to come live and be there and really commit to also giving me the feedback if I choose you to have a spot here. But yeah, it's. Really fun. It's really generous. It, it takes a whole team of people and a lot to build this out, but I love being in community each year and I love getting feedback and, and, and, yeah.

[00:57:47] Janne Robinson: And then it's like, it's like a free 10 day personal development thing, so it feels amazing to. Give to people the opportunity of being involved in, and it allows me to like, touch and access my work in a way that I only get to do once a year. So, very excited. It's June 2nd to 12th. It's called Meet Yourself in Truth is that I haven't even shared about it in the world.

[00:58:08] Janne Robinson: So if you're listening to this podcast, you're one of, you're getting one of like the first opportunities, um, and also bring a friend. It's fun to do this with a accountability buddy. So you can share the link with 15 people in your life if you want. Um, and maybe, you know who would need it the most just listening to this.

[00:58:25] Janne Robinson: Please do send it to them. Um, and, and it can be really good. And also if you wanna come, if you're a mom, ask for the support that you need or if you have kids, like get childcare. Be there to really receive. So often we sign up for things to, to support us and then we don't actually. Sit down. So go get the childcare or ask for support or lock the time in your calendar to really be there if you're gonna come.

[00:58:50] Janne Robinson: 'cause I'm gonna wanna be with you. Um, so also, I just wanna note that, just to encourage you to not just. Come, but like, what would it Commitment only works when you do it. So could you actually commit to this if you come and you're, you're approved to like follow through and uh, and yeah. So if anybody in Iris, your community is listening to this and goes like, I like this woman's energy and I'm curious to learn more.

[00:59:15] Janne Robinson: I felt something inside when she was talking. Maybe you're triggered by me 'cause I'm really bold, but like, I feel something and I wanna learn more. I would love to have you come meet yourself. In truth. Um, we up tune our cars, our closets, but like when was the last time you sat with yourself? So, um. Yeah, come sit with me.

[00:59:34] Janne Robinson: I'm also really fun. Um, I'm not just serious. We're not just gonna talk slow and it's not gonna be this big spiritual thing. I'm gonna make you laugh and, uh, probably cry and feel afraid and all, all of the, the spectrum of emotions. So, and Iris, I would love for you to come as well too. I think we've talked about that.

[00:59:51] Janne Robinson: Yes, yes. I'm gonna be there for sure. So I'm gonna be there. I'm gonna invite some of my friends, so I'm definitely gonna be there. And I love that you commit so much time and love and energy to creating this because I feel, you know, and you know this, you're a business owner in the business world, there is so many people who just do free things to get numbers and do free things to get people on their email list.

[01:00:17] Iris Josephina: And honestly, I'm so sick of that. Like, it's so uninspiring and it's just so beautiful to see someone commit 10 days of their lives to, to, to be with their people. Because it doesn't happen like that. I mean, people do like one free webinar or a three day challenge, but I love that you actually take so much time and effort and energy to actually be with us and then also ask us to, to be committed because how, how many times have we dropped our email because we loved like a fancy title of a webinar and then we never opened it up.

[01:00:57] Iris Josephina: Like it happens all the time. And it's like with these kinds of things, like I feel so much in my heart, these things are a reciprocal. You're, you are stepping into reciprocal relationship. And because it's online, it often doesn't feel that way. But I, that's why I love to work with you because you're different in that, and I love that you create this open space you give from your heart.

[01:01:22] Iris Josephina: You invite people in and Yeah, that's, that's why I trust you. That's why I work with you. That's why I come to talk into, into your program because you're just a real woman and you're doing it like so much from the heart. And I really want to say that, and I appreciate you so much for inviting me into your world and, and support you with this work because it doesn't happen everywhere.

[01:01:44] Iris Josephina: Like we all know that we, we are entrepreneurs. We see other, you know, other spaces as well. And I think it's important for us to, as entrepreneurs, to keep connecting. And to support each other in this way and bring our people in each other's worlds, um, because we're all here for, for the same thing. We all wanna have community, we all wanna be loved, we all wanna be seen, we all wanna grow.

[01:02:12] Iris Josephina: And I love that you so generously create these spaces and I just wanna express my gratitude for that 'cause I love you for that. Aw, thanks. I appreciate it. Well, generosity's one of my core values. I, uh, I, real quick, I know we're so over at time. I know you're like, usually do 45 minutes. That's ans but I, I had a moment when, um.

[01:02:34] Janne Robinson: I was very little. I was raised on welfare and we didn't have a lot. And there was this moment, I think this is where my value of generosity came from, which always I, I've kind of like almost cried four times on this conversation. Uh, is that, uh, we had gone to like a Salvation Army. Got a secondhand, so secondhand things, me and my mom.

[01:02:54] Janne Robinson: And we had bought this, I think it was a sleeping bag or a blanket. And I remember being really excited about it. And we were walking home in Vancouver. It was winter and there was a homeless person sleeping by the school. And uh, my mom stopped and without saying anything to me, she took the blanket and she put it by this person sleeping.

[01:03:13] Janne Robinson: Hmm. And I remember having this feeling as a kid of like a little bit of sadness 'cause I wanted the thing and then her just being like. They need it more than us, and I have the most generous mom. Like really to be raised with so little and to have that has really shaped me in a huge way. And it's one of my biggest values, and I try and live it in my business.

[01:03:35] Janne Robinson: The other thing is that I think it's like a, it's a trust economy right now. You also have to like mm-hmm. Spend time with people and yeah. I, I think that it's important to sit in community and really give people the opportunity to know who know who we are over. And if you're a business owner listening to this, like give people time to get to know who you are because, um, we need to be able to spend time understanding and, and having community and space that's more than an hour is really important for that.

[01:04:05] Janne Robinson: So yes, it's a huge lift. It, it also financially is like $50,000, like a whole, it's everything. Both, like I have a team of 20 diff 10 community moderators that are called truth team. And they like support in the groups that everybody feels seen and held. And then I have a team of about seven people that I pay for.

[01:04:28] Janne Robinson: It takes a whole thing to do, but it's such a giving to me and to everybody, and I'm exhausted after, but I love it. I'm gonna lay on a beach in Maui for a week like flatline, drinking really good coffee. I've already got it booked. Um, so I, um, yeah. Thank you for those words. It is a, it is a giving, it's a generosity and I think that that's how we should do everything.

[01:04:51] Janne Robinson: I think generosity is a, a really great thing. So also, if you wanna come learn about business with generosity and you're listening to this, come, come, come hang out. 'cause, uh, it's probably one of the coolest things you'll see. We also do it like a VIP giveaway. Somebody flies into Encinitas and hangs out with me.

[01:05:07] Janne Robinson: That's a, I'll give that away too. So, um, there's a big gift thing that we do and all kinds of things, so. Come hang, come apply. Um, Iris, thank you. I'm so excited to have you be a part of the bigger program that happens later. Um, and um, also if you're a part of this beta experience and you do like it, you get a discount code and all the things, and I name in the very beginning of the experience, it's not a webinar.

[01:05:33] Janne Robinson: I'm gonna be like, Hey, there is at some point gonna be an invitation to later come if you wanna come. But, um, there is like a, an opportunity to have a discount code that you don't get. Also if you're, so, um, because you're there and you're testing the actual curriculum with me, which is really helpful and like important.

[01:05:50] Janne Robinson: So, um, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll be sharing the, the invitation in the show notes for the free 10 day event so that people can easily, uh, join should people want to like. Look at your socials or your website. What are, what are the best places that they can find you? Yeah, of course. Um, uh, so my name is like Jane with two Ns.

[01:06:14] Janne Robinson: Janna is Greek, so it's J-A-N-N-E, Jane with two Ns, but it's much more exotic. It's much prettier. Uh, and then Robinson. And, uh, yeah, my Instagram's a hoot. Uh, so much happens there. You'll, you won't know what, what to think. Uh, and then I, because I write poetry, I'll do all kinds. You're gonna be like, no, you never know it's coming down.

[01:06:32] Janne Robinson: I don't really have a brand that's John Robinson. It's just a surprise. Uh, and then I have john robinson.com, J-A-N-N-E robinson.com. And, and yeah, those are the, and I have my book. This is for the women who don't give a fuck. It's my first book. That's a good place to start if you're into poetry. Um, there's Cobwebs In Her Vagina is my second book.

[01:06:52] Janne Robinson: Those are both on Amazon. I remembered that book coming out and it was the best title. I shared it with so many women. I'm like, we need to read this.

[01:07:03] Janne Robinson: It's really fun. Yeah. I also work in corporate. I always tell people, I'm like, you can do anything you want. Like, you know, like, I like, I'm like, I love to be a expander. But yeah. Um, yeah. So those are all places. But yeah, just come hang out with us. It's live and you know, you can buy my book later. I'd love for you to just come, come be in the energy and, um, there is also some catch up days that you can watch recordings on, so that's good too.

[01:07:26] Janne Robinson: But yeah, Iris, thank you for the generosity of your time and you also your trust because to bring anyone onto your podcast or into your audience means that to a degree that you trust them and feel resonance with them. So, um, to everyone listening, your attention and your presence nowadays, there's a lot competing for it.

[01:07:46] Janne Robinson: So thank you for taking the time. Yeah. And then, yeah, IRA, thank you for taking the time to hear my story and, and share this and also come into the program later. I really am really excited to have you be a part of it. I'm excited too, and I will definitely see you at the 10 day event. I'm gonna be there, gonna bring my friends so we can share time there.

[01:08:05] Iris Josephina: Sounds good. Thank you so much for coming on for now. 

[01:08:10] Iris Josephina: Okay, this wraps up today's episode. Thank you so much for listening. Want to know more about me? The best way to reach me is via At Cycles Seeds on Instagram. And if you heard something today and you think, oh my God, wow, I learned something new, feel free to share the podcast on your social media and tag me or leave a review of rating in this way.

[01:08:31] Iris Josephina: You help me reach more people like you. Thank you so much.